rugby union vs rugby league which is better

rugby union vs rugby league which is better

"is it better to watch constant movement and a game where catching, passing, and tackling are the key skills? It is for that reason that rugby union players compete for balls on the ground in what are called rucks and sometimes try to keep tackled players off the ground in what are called mauls. I find the super league far more entertaining to watch than the guinness prem, but obviously that comes down to which code you prefer. We had a few top-level union players start training with us and we used to lay bets about how long it would be before they cramped up - usually after about 30 mins!I was glad to be able to 'retire' back to the junior union ranks - where life was a lot less painful! Luckily the Scottish professional rugby teams have started playing on a Friday night too and we cover them on the radio so that's another night out. To be avoided at all costs. Soon, when people ask if I have watched a programme I will be able to say no every day because it's weight training on a Monday and Wednesday night from now on. It is a thing of beauty and forward control can be as impressive as back play. I never thought I would write this next line: I have missed Peter Wright. read more For the latest updates across BBC blogs, visit the Blogs homepage. Just my nostalgia soaked opinion, so go easy on me. When the sides are determined to move the ball around, League can be a good spectacle but most of the games I have seen are hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, kick; repeat the cycle with an occasional breakaway thrown in. Complain about this comment (Comment number 25). Last Saturday's match between the All Blacks and S.Africa was as good an advert for the game as I've seen for a long time - even S.Africa had appeared to change their philosophy and were trying to play a running game. The difference comes from the larger emphasis on kicking in Union compared to the predominantly passing game of league (i.e the bullet like league ball is easier to pass while the slightly rounder union ball has a larger sweet spot for kicking). I acknowledge this is less applicable to heineken cup and international union where the skill sets and mobility of the front 5 is usually impressive but it can be seen week in week out as high as the premiership. The bravery taking the ball into contact at full speed is admirable, and their ability to spot an overlap shows a vision that not many union players possess. League is much quicker and focuses predominantly on skill while union is more territory and strength. from the crowd and whoever wins the scrum gets a set of 6 and a run at glory. Union is a decent sport but League is on another level. Complain about this comment (Comment number 20), John: No contest! JohnI went from a junior (back row) unionist to professional (2nd/front row) leaguer in the early nineties and I'm pretty sure you would have loved it - once you had increased your fitness and got used to the increased physicality! The rugby players can also scrum, ruck, maul, lineouts, clean out and follow and contest the ball. Zimbabwe has more rugby players at all level than the current rugby league world champions NZ and France put together. Complain about this comment (Comment number 26). In conclusion I would not bet against one merged form of rugby in 50 or so years time. Average attendance at the 2003 RWC (same country - australia) was 38,000, while the average in France 4 years later was 48,000.For another comparrison, the 1998 FIFA World Cup in france had an average attendance of 43,500.In the list of best-attended International sporting competitions, 3 of the top 4 are Rugby Union - RBS 6N's (70,000), FIFA WC (49,000), RWC (47,000) and Tri-nations (44,000). :)@The_Voice: No you're not gettin git, Nottingham are in the RFU Championship. who cares if you enjoy it. Complain about this comment (Comment number 73). And no there aren't seventeen beer-barrels rugby players on the field that day. Complain about this comment (Comment number 59). Rugby is all action for 80 minutes. This page is best viewed in an up-to-date web browser with style sheets (CSS) enabled. Complain about this comment (Comment number 2). Rugby was growing very fast and even the evnts in France would not have change a thing.Don't forget the French international rugby team and clubs were banned from playing international matches and the Five Nations in 1932 to 1947. !Perhaps RU journos should write about the lack of blackplayers in RU unitl fairly recently or why there have been so many RU rule changes(RU needs to look like RL as its rulers are ruled by money). Complain about this comment (Comment number 6). However after watching this year's tri-nations do I detect a change in mindset. The fitness levels are higher and hits much harder in league, as emphasised by Gareth Thomas after he switched (possibly an interview on BBC, possibly on Boots'n'All, I will try and track it down). I have watched league on tv on and off for nearly 40 years. Many more carries and many more tackles in league. Compare Super15 to the Premiership. The difference for me though depends on where its played. They and their Lancashire neighbours formed the Northern Rugby Football Union, whilst the RFU continued to govern the sport which would soon become known as rugby union. Unfortunately we are served sub-standard rugby league in the UK possibly because the best players go to union. The only single-sport events bigger than the RWC are the FIFA World Cup, and the Tour de France.Surely if League was a better sport, people would watch that rather than Union? poor yawnion fans, the most exciting tries scored at the english ground were scored by league players...shame.union never did anything for me - even less since the lad pretended to be bleeding to get a kicker on...heres an idea - why not go crazy and try score a try instead of lining up a kick, not only does it put your game into shame, it shows how boring it is when the sides go to that lengths to kick instead of spreading the play and going for it. This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Rugby is divided into two main “codes”; Rugby League and Rugby Union. just pure unadulterated strength and stamina.from a pure entertainment angle, i think league is the better game. league is probably a bit more free flowing but i prefer union. Complain about this comment (Comment number 29). But Union is the better game. I don't know where you got that idea rugby players have no sex life because of rugby rucks, mauls and scrum. though we use it a lot in training! I like the permanent contest for posession in all facets of the game.League still in a way seems like a highlight sport to me. The pitch of the Rugby League measures between 112 and 122 meters long by 68 meters wide. I would have had Gregor Townsend or Finlay Calder in there perhaps? Complain about this comment (Comment number 51). Complain about this comment (Comment number 40), Complain about this comment (Comment number 41). Ask Gareth Thomas and I'm sure he will tell you otherwise. I played league and union all the way through my youth till the age on 18 and represented my province in both forms the game. But Unions biggest crowds are generally internationals will obviously generate alot of money, hence the spread of Union internationally as the IRB has tons more to spend abroad. Complain about this comment (Comment number 10). The main league competitions are found (4N's and RLWC are ranked 12 and 13 respectivly, behind Coppa America, FIFA Womens World Cup, Euro 2008, CONCACAF Gold Cup, AFC Asia Cup, The World Baseball Classic and the African Cup of Nations. How is the SIX Huddersfield players Supperleague rugby league rape case going The_Voice?In regards to the media. Reply to Gort2 :It was a game last season in the Championship between Nottingham and Exeter.This is an extract from their web-site:Nottingham Rugby will be guaranteed an extra 1,000 "supporters" on Sunday when they take on title-chasing Exeter Chiefs at Meadow Lane.The Family Stand at the scoreboard end will be packed with inflatable fans provided by Airheads, a local company that specialises in enhancing crowd scenes for films, TV, commercials and promotional work.The Green and Whites' crowds have been on the up and up this season following yet another successful campaign that has taken them to within - one step of a Twickenham Final and in the brink of a top four finish in National Division One.Airheads' director Lee Harris is delighted to help Nottingham Rugby in their push to keep building the crowds at Meadow Lane. Unfortunately for those who like a good back story, the tale of one William Webb Ellis picking up the ball during a game of football at Rugby School and thus inventing the sport of the same name is somewhat of a myth. See this short article from the BBC website for a whistlestop history: https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/2307043.stm, Complain about this comment (Comment number 53). I don't begrudge League followers their pleasures, but I do consider legislative moves to make Union more like League (for instance, measures to make it less worthwhile to contest rucks) to be retrograde, and journalistic folklore which has the same effect (for instance believing that the ball must be kept in hand at all costs and at all times) to be positively morbid.Sure, the result of Union's complexity can be grim struggles with little in the way of crowd-pleasing flamboyance. Complain about this comment (Comment number 36). In rugby league, you have 13 players on a team while rugby union teams have 15 on the pitch. Read more. Wigan had Henry Paul, Martin Offiah, Andy Farrell, Jason Robinson and Shaun Edwards, but Bath had scrums and rolling mauls. Rugby League is often considered the more physically gruelling and spectator-friendly of the two as it was designed to promote faster gameplay. The other thing is that Union is still a game for all shapes and sizes however I feel in League the saying that good big one is far better than a good little one is very true. Complain about this comment (Comment number 52), @ Hugh in FranceThe popularity of rugby league has been heavily shaped by political events and may well have ended up as the more popular sport had the second world was not intervened. Amongst those laws were strict rules against professionalism within the game and it was these which ultimately led to the rise of rugby league. Interesting to note no apology has ever been received, let alone the considerable bank balance. so scrums and lineouts suite me fine.Anyway i remember the days when a RU team could kick direct into touch from anywhere. Complain about this comment (Comment number 38). I find league pretty boring most of the time to be honest - an occasional great game, and a lot to admire if you get off on watching pure technique, but I generally turn the telly over to something else if it comes on. They don't and might as well be considered different sports.An acid test of similarity is whether each code could play each other. That conglomeration of rugby playing schools and clubs then approved the first official laws of the sport in 1871. Complain about this comment (Comment number 18). Complain about this comment (Comment number 1). The Heineken Cup Final is now big enough it would sell out any ground in a 6 Nations country - 80,000 at the Stade de France last season, and I am sure if it had been in Barcelona at the magnificent Camp Nou it would have been a 98,000 sell-out (Barcelona is closer to both Toulouse and Biarritz than Paris is!). The first obvious difference between rugby league and rugby union is that the former is played by 13 players per team, whilst the latter features 15 players a side. Now the ref is on the side of the attacking side which is why teams such as Northampton, Leicester and the All Blacks have been successful. In rugby union, a try is worth five points and a conversion can then tack on an extra two. Marshal Petain banned rugby league in 1941 and seized it assets (which was labelled as a deviant variation of RU) at a time when league was flourishing and union was in decline. Scrums are constantly being reset rather than let 2 props of equal ability sort things out themselves. While I'm a much bigger League fan than Union, both codes can have their good and bad games. In ‘Union’ sides consist of 15 players, whereas in ‘League’ sides only have 13. Front row play is an art and indeed a career long learning curve.I say we either standardise scrummaging laws across all age groups in union or we do away with the competetive scrum as in League where they are guaranteed posession from their own put in then the game moves swiftly on.Since professionalism, I feel that Union has become a stale turgid multi-phased, defence orientated game; Certainly not the spectacle of running rugby brought into our living rooms by the Irvine's, Campese's Renwicks etc of the pre-pro era. However whilst the we continue to have a lot to learn about lines of running, aggressive driving with the ball and defence, we are improving and have caught up in terms of fitness which was always a major difference in the past - with the advent of professionalism. This page has been archived and is no longer updated. My first arguement is that rugby league coppied union. League has a better point scoring system with field goals only worth 1 point. It was a bunch of professionals (wigan) who were professional for years against a bunch of amateurs (bath)A silly money making game.Both League and Union have their merits and the wigan team was a great team of superstars. I think you will find that some of the Superleague teams like Salford, Harlequins RL, Crusaders and others have had crowds closer 1300. MY father always used to tell of the risk of being banned for even speaking to a league rep. You can stay up to date with John Beattie via these feeds. The changes to the game in my view have not helped the free flowing game that I loved to play and the game has got worse to watch as a spectacle. Union has lineouts where large 18 / 19 stone men are being lifted and suspended to a height of say, 5 or 6 feet off the ground. Perhaps someone is ashamed ? Obviously he was a great player and i'm not making any comment about his playing ability but would he be a Scotland legend above others? Watch Scotland and Wales release from the tackle, rapid ball recovery and continued forward support. @mefan (post 12)The attendance argument doesn't really stand up in favour of League - yes the Challenge Cup Final will get approx. After starting to be played at a number of schools and clubs, rugby football gained a governing body in 1870 in the shape of the Rugby Football Union. The match played under Union rules would see the League props under severe danger of neck injury in the scrums, the League team would be wiped out in the lineout and the Union team would be able to produce 100m rolling mauls which the League team would have no way of legally stopping. RU is ironically now about money and viewing figures, its not about the speccie - look at the ticket prices for forhcoming Ireland internationals, they make your eyes water !! that wouldnt happen in Union with amateur squad members making it into the 6N squad or the RWC squad.Now based in Budapest, I am back to playing Union as any form of rugby out here is still relatively unheard of! Complain about this comment (Comment number 42), Complain about this comment (Comment number 43). Several things hereRL is a much better game to watch now as the players (as in most sports ) are better conditioned than in the past. For a few years I recorded both NRL and Super League games and, with few exceptions, found them most interesting when played on fast forward. I agree with Lamont and Williams. Union in the northern hemisphere (at club level) is awful, truely boring, the majority of the time, whereas (up until a couple of years ago) it was the exact opposite for League. Sign up to our newsletter to be the first to hear about special offers, hospitality on-sale dates and updates from our blog. I would also love to see how hard Jerry Collins could hit if he didn't have to wrap his arms around. We pride ourselves on offering top class rugby hospitality at a range of top rugby league and rugby union venues, and can deliver an experience which you and your guests will remember forever. As for the guy saying that union is for public school people its really the complete opposite. People in the Southern Hemisphere are more concerned with running attacking football than scrums & lineouts.I've always thought the NRL is the best football comp. Complain about this comment (Comment number 37). Complain about this comment (Comment number 69). This class divide is also visible in Australia and New Zealand. Complain about this comment (Comment number 13), Complain about this comment (Comment number 14). How good it is to be back on the air. What is the actual difference? It's almost a badge of honour. 2. All the other choices are 100% spot on! And even during that period where union went downhill, there were many sides more than willing to run the ball and attack. His ball carrying and defense would be amazing from 8 or 6 but he may struggle when the ball was on the floor.On a final note, I saw a study a year or so ago comparing the time the ball was in play in union and league matches. I would be curious to know too whether as many professional League players go under the surgeon's knife as do those playing Union due to the different nature of the game?In conclusion however, there is not a simple solution for Union without totally changing the game. In the northern hemisphere though, over the past couple of seasons, Leagie is starting to become similar to the NRL. In rugby there are usually more than five players all contesting, rucking, mauling and smashin each other up to get the ball.have you ever seeing a league match live? James Graham is an outstanding player but may struggle to find a position in union. Complain about this comment (Comment number 35). During the early development of rugby football different schools used different rules, on many occasions agreeing upon them shortly before commencement of the game. They like League & Union in equal measure now which is a result for both codes I think! Complain about this comment (Comment number 64). When they were allowed back France won the Five Nations in 1954 and had a golden era in the 50's and 60's and 70's which is the main reason why rugby is so popular in France. If you do, Keith Prowse are sure to have a rugby hospitality package which can make your day at the match extra special. Union by a chunk! 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